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I had to go through quite a bit in my life to get to 38 years old and feel like the most ‘important purchase’ is a contingency plan

Joseph’s problems started with gambling and impulse buying.

“When I was young, I started gambling on pokies. I had what they call the ‘phenomenal first win’—bells and whistles go off, and you win dream money for a night. You think that’s going to happen all the time.”

“I was also undiagnosed with ADHD and it played a big part in impulse control.

“When you start trying to gain control over impulse gambling and shopping, it’s almost harder than quitting smoking. It’s not just that you lose control of yourself, but your brain is almost a separate entity. It becomes an enemy.”

Joseph worked for months to put in place ‘accountability’ measures to ensure he stopped gambling.

“I gave my housemate my EFTPOS card and said that the only time I need it is to pay a bill online, and to do that, I’ll need the three digits on the back of my card.

Joseph knew that the only way out of his gambling and impulse buying problems was to make a conscious effort to not have easy access to money.

“I’m more honest now than I’ve ever been in my life. I told everybody because I needed to put a system in place that would guarantee accountability.

“I told my friends and family not to give me cash. And if they do, I provide a receipt.”

When Joseph eventually approached Way Forward for help with his debts, he knew he needed bank statements that showed a track record of no cash withdrawals. He waited several months before asking for assistance.

“You can’t just go to Way Forward and expect to be rescued. It must come from within you.

I didn’t want someone like Deborah [Way Forward hardship advocate] to put an excellent plan in place and then repeatedly fail on my end.”

Buy Now, Pay Later made problem gambling worse

Joseph started using BNPL to purchase everyday items to cover up gambling losses.

“I bought gift cards with Afterpay and Zip, and that accelerated my gambling. Some modern gamblers will be doing things like this.

For example, if you’ve lost $400 gambling, you’ll do a $400 shop, but instead of using savings, you use Zip. The deception is that the shopping is done using debt, and the money that’s been lost gambling is covered up.”

Create a personalised budget

Having a budget planner that Joseph designed himself was also an effective strategy to proactively understand his finances better.

“I have a budget planner, and knowing that I have ADHD, I’ll literally check it eight or nine times a day.”

Focusing on daily progress and thoughtful, intentional spending is helping Joseph get where he hopes to go.

“If I want to get to where I want to be, I’m not going to win money gambling. It has never happened in all these years.

“I had to get out of the mess slowly—dollar by dollar. Everything I’ve done up until this point was chasing a quick win.”

Budgeting has also been critical for Joseph’s financial recovery.

“I’m a data analyst, so I made a spreadsheet for my budgeting. The budget is set up weekly, but then I’ll also be able to look weeks ahead and start prepaying or preplanning for certain bills.

“It’s something that works for me.

“As time goes on, I can change it as I please. It started off with over 35 categories, and over time, you start to narrow it down and know which categories you can merge.

“If I had to stand on stage and talk to a bunch of people who were like me, I’d say that instead of taking someone else’s template, take all of them, copy and paste those random pearls of wisdom that you find that apply to you and make your own cheat sheet.

“A lot of them are unreasonable and don’t address what’s behind the spending.

“I had to go through quite a bit in my life to reach 38 years old and feel like the most ‘important purchase’ is a contingency plan.”

Finding a way out

For a long time, Joseph says he couldn’t see a way out.

“Now, I am very happy, and that is largely thanks to Way Forward. There was a late-night moment of desperation, and I stumbled across your website, and I thought this is my last chance.

“By the next day, I’d already lost that spark of motivation because I thought there’s no way anyone can help. I’m better off just hiding until the world blows over.

“But Deborah kept calling. A few times when I did want to answer but I was stuck in meetings. But she didn’t give up for a solid week. And then she did catch me. She believed she could help.

“She empathised, and there was no judgment, so I felt a bit of positivity after that.

“I told her everything. I might have even spoken too much, but she didn’t seem to be saying that there was nothing they can do.

“I had been turned away from other counselling places before, so I felt sorry for myself and thought, now she’s just going to come back and say that she can’t help.

“But no, she worked magic. There was literally a way forward.

“I was going in circles before. 90 percent of my pay was going to a debt with massive interest, and even in that, I’d be skipping a payment just so that I could have food.”

Lenders kept offering money

“I remember when the bank sent me a letter for the first time saying that I qualify for a credit card with a $10,000 limit. I thought, if the bank thinks I’m good for it, then surely, I am. You’re very frugal with it at first and feel pretty good about yourself, and then you have a big night out and run out of your own money.

“I was surprised that I was approved for some of the loans that eventually put me into hardship. Out of desperation, you look for signs, so when you might receive a text message offering ‘$2,000 today,’ you accept more loans.”

Humility is the Way Forward

“You must humble yourself. The biggest challenge is, how do I tell the people that care about me and only want to see me succeed that I have repeatedly failed to control myself whenever it mattered?

“You start by pushing your ego to the side and go to those people who you not only love but those you are sure love you back and say to them: I don’t want your judgment, but this is what’s going on, so help keep me accountable.

“I have some totems, which are a few purchases that are utterly useless. Like a 3D maze that was $60. It’s a bowl inside the little ball that goes around, and I’ll never solve it. I keep it there as a reminder to not buy things I don’t need.”

Joseph says that the bank he uses, Up, includes features in their products that are incidentally ADHD-friendly.

“There’s a side savings account where you can just put money in. But if I want to take money out, there’s a three-hour delay.

“If you’re out shopping, and you know your weaknesses, you can’t impulsively take that money out. If there is an emergency, you can text a friend who can release it, which is my housemate. He’s my accountability coach.

“If you’re struggling with impulses, and some of us might enjoy having those impulses because it’s rewarding to fulfil them, the challenge is how are you going to put an external measure in place?

“For some people, feeling like a failure or the fear of rejection is a hurdle to seeking help. What if you tell people about your problem, and they can’t help you? Or what if they call you a loser and want nothing to do with you?

“It’s hard to be vulnerable, but that’s a risk you have to take.”

“My friends and my family joke that money burns a hole in my pocket”

Like many people, Sue developed unhealthy online shopping habits during COVID lockdowns.

“I racked up about $15,000 in debt using my Westpac credit card, Afterpay and then I discovered Zip Pay. They were my three main debtors.

“I knew that it was getting out of control when my repayments were more than I could afford.

“I talked to a counsellor and realised that my online shopping was an addiction. I didn’t necessarily need the stuff that I was buying.

“I decided to do something about it, so I spoke to a couple of free services and then found Way Forward.

At first, I didn’t understand what was going on but once I spoke with Bianca from Way Forward, she made it simple.

“We started documenting my debts and repayments. Then, things changed 18 months ago because I separated from my son’s father, which meant I became solely responsible for new expenses like rent and bills.

“In the past, I had never worked out my incomings and my outgoings, but I’ve done this now.”

New opportunities

Sue was given a lump sum of money once she had separated from her former partner. She’s using the lump sum of money firstly to repay her debts, which are currently managed by Way Forward.

Sue has goals she wants to achieve including buying a home to live in. She’s currently looking for a mortgage broker since she’s received a lump sum payment from the separation with her former partner.

She is optimistic about the future.

“The next time a mortgage broker investigates my finances, they’ll see only good things whereas only 18 months ago, it would have been quite dire.

“I’m working out how I can keep that money safe. Habits that I’ve had for my whole life aren’t going to go away just because I’ve got a large sum of money in my bank.”

Changing habits

Recently, Sue saw a free financial counselling service to help with budgeting.

“Not to say that I’m completely healed but I’m now keeping track of my spending.

“Way Forward and counselling has taught me that my finances are my responsibility. I’ve never had that before and I’m 47 years old.

“It’s about time to really knuckle down.”

Being open to changing her habits and behaviours is something Sue takes pride in.

“I’m not scared to reach out to whoever can help me. There are many services out there for someone in my situation and, as an example, I’ve been able to get free counselling.”

Sue has words of wisdom for people in a similar situation.

“Check out all the terms and conditions if you are engaging someone to help you.

“I almost used a particular company but when I started asking questions and reading more into it, I realised that it could be worse for me in the future.

The only trouble is that Way Forward is a well-kept secret. And I wish that that wasn’t the case.

“I’m good at researching, which is how I found Way Forward. But other people might not necessarily have that tenacity to find answers to questions, they think this is just too hard.

“I would love for everybody to know about Way Forward. I’m sure that given the amount of people I’ve spoken to, I’m not the only person that during COVID when we couldn’t get out and travel, got themselves into an online shopping habit.”

“Way Forward builds people back up to regain their independence and self-worth, solving an unsolvable problem”

Emily knew she needed to leave her relationship, and that this was going to cost. She needed money to pay legal fees and something left over for her and her two children to live off.

After borrowing $15,000 to pay lawyers, she quickly spiralled, ending up with multitude of payday loans. She fell into a trap of borrowing to pay down the most pressing repayments.

“I was stuck in limbo and getting deeper into debt.”

“I would watch the amounts I needed to repay on those payday loans get bigger and bigger.”

At this point, Emily had tried a few different things to get on top of her debts.

She had spoken to a debt consolidation company, but after realising that the company would not guarantee an outcome and could advise she declare bankruptcy, even after she had paid their fees. Emily also did not want to be advised to declare bankruptcy.

“I didn’t want bankruptcy following me around and also meant I couldn’t pay off the debt and it’s important that I do that”.

“It was daunting to think of having a bad credit rating for 5 years, and that there is not really any way around it.”

“I also tried to pursue a debt consolidation loan with my bank, but they said no.”

Living instead of existing

Emily was referred to Way Forward from the National Debt Helpline.

“As soon as I contacted Way Forward, everything felt so easy.”

“Way Forward gives you the sense that they believe that you can do this, you can pay off your debts. They make you feel like they’re backing you.”

“They feel like they are advocated for you as a person, and that’s very heartening.”

“I spoke with Bill, who took the problem, and said, we’re going to look after this for you for a while.

“They offered me a solution and I felt good about that solution.”

“Everything has changed – where creditors were taking money out of my bank account, I can now save a little bit of money.”

Budgeting becomes easier

As a single parent on a fixed income, Emily has always used a budget.

“Recently, a medical bill came up and instead of asking to borrow money from family, I had $1000 in savings to put towards that.”

“I was able to buy birthday presents for the kids and do something special instead of buying something tokenistic.”

“I need to upgrade my car soon so I can potentially drive longer distances to a different job, and now I’m considering saving to buy that car rather than borrowing.”

Person-centred approach

Having recently started her repayments, Emily is relieved that the feeling of constant dread she had from not meeting her debt repayments is now gone.

“Way Forward seem to have a focus on trying to build people back up to regain their independence and self-worth to solving an unsolvable problem and resolve a crisis.”

“It’s so discreet, no one needs to know about this, it feels like it’s between me and Way Forward, and there’s a lot of respect attached to that”

She suggested that people who are struggling, would benefit from thinking beyond what they know about money and finances, because “when you’re in a debt trap, that’s all you know”.

“There often is a way out, we don’t know the right people to talk to.”

“My advice to anyone is is in trouble is to think beyond where you are now, unless you do something active, you won’t get out of it.”

“Don’t do what I did. Just pick up the phone and see if Way Forward can help.”

Following a marriage breakdown, relocation and a new job, Sarah found herself losing sleep over unmanageable debt with only costly ways out. When the stress over finances started to affect her relationships with loved ones, such as her young daughter, she knew she had to ask for help. Now, Sarah wishes she’d done it sooner.

“I had a good situation, nice place, nice car, overseas travel, everything going well, I was in a happy relationship. Things changed after falling pregnant and the relationship continued to deteriorate after having our daughter. So a family breakdown led to my current set of circumstances. And that’s been exacerbated over time with family law processes and basically, having to start again.”

Despite working, family expenses and costly emergencies made Sarah turn to credit cards and personal loans, which quickly ballooned into a problem.

“When I was unable to repay my debts, my solution was to find a consolidation loan to reduce the repayments and a cheaper rate. I spent many sleepless nights looking and applying for consolidation loans to try and move forward. I halved my credit rating in the process, which was devastating.”

“I was told I didn’t have enough income for a consolidation loan, although it would be a lower repayment than what I was currently paying. That’s when I started to look at alternatives.”

“I contacted numerous organisations and many called me back to say I should go bankrupt in one form or another. Being a single parent that wasn’t really an option.”

When Sarah met Bill

Following endless nights of research, Sarah finally got in touch with Bill, one of Way Forward’s financial hardship advisors.

“I was very fortunate to find Bill who reassured me that with Way Forward, it was a different process. One where I’m still honoring my creditors, which meant a lot to me because I’ve always paid my debt. I’m particularly proud of being in that situation now.”

Putting together a realistic debt repayment plan with enough left over to manage Sarah’s living expenses brought instant relief.

“The process of putting a repayment plan and budget together was easy and simple. Bill was really understanding and he worked with me to find a solution. And it wasn’t just lip service. It was backed by a real, long-term solution to start managing my debts.”

“It is a huge relief, being able to sleep again, not stressing out, not staying up all night, not losing time with my child over the anxiety of dealing with this. I don’t have any regrets about the process with Way Forward, whereas every other option would have left me in a worse position.”

“I knew it was a matter of time before I find a solution where everyone wins. I just wish I would have picked up the phone and contacted Way Forward sooner.”

Ask for help

For others in a similar situation, Sarah’s advice is clear: you’re not failing if you ask for help.

“When I got to the point where I knew I had to call for help, I had this feeling I failed and that I shouldn’t be in this position. So then to have someone like Bill on the other end, who made me feel good, was a huge relief. He wasn’t trying to get me into a worse position or wasn’t trying to sell me some ridiculously expensive solution. He was genuinely trying to help.”

“So don’t feel like you’re failing by picking up the phone and calling. You won’t regret it, you’ll get your life back. And you’ll have a true solution put in place where everyone wins.”

“And that’s one of the things Bill said that made me feel better. The banks and creditors are still getting something back rather than nothing. It made me feel so much better knowing those debts are still being repaid but at an affordable rate for me.”

More time for what matters

Now Sarah has more time for the things that really matter in her life such as her job supporting vulnerable people and spending time with her daughter – while getting through home schooling during lockdown.

“I realised yesterday that I was really enjoying our time together again with my daughter. And I thought, I’ve been a little bit absent, not being able to connect as much because I’m always concerned about this underlying issue. And she’s felt that as well.”

“So the biggest thing for me is not having those barriers to connect with the people you love and care about, which is what it’s all about anyway, because of the stress over finances.”

 

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A marriage breakdown, career change and raising a family as a single parent caused Adam to fall into debt and he couldn’t see a way out

Adam’s story begins with a marriage breakdown. His partner had succumbed to addiction issues, leaving Adam as the sole caregiver for his two children.

Adam’s marriage separation happened over a decade ago, but since then he has experienced financial stress and on-going debt that would seemingly take until beyond his retirement to pay off.

“I thought I was going to be carrying this debt until I died. It would have to come out of my super. There didn’t seem to be any other way out.”

The cost of the separation, combined with losing a well-paying job, trying to put his kids through private school and university, starting his own business and singlehandedly managing the cost of running a family household and mortgage meant that Adam was weighed down with debt.

His children are now grown adults with successful careers, who are thriving in their personal and professional lives.

“I was a general manager for a corporate employer. The money was good, it was a great  lifestyle with lots of travel. Unfortunately, as a result of the marriage breakdown I lost that job. It was very hard to get back into the corporate world and I ended up starting my own business, but that was an incredible drain.

“I started a new business in early 2019 and that was when the industry I am in began to decline. Which meant revenue fell off. In 2020, the pandemic just destroyed business. The last two or three years were the most difficult. I just couldn’t get on top of the debt.

“Unfortunately, you tend to lean on the generosity of the banks when you have an offer of a credit card, you think that’ll fix that problem. That was what got me into real difficulties.

“I didn’t have a lot of dialogue with any the creditors. As far as they were concerned, I was probably an ideal client: I kept paying the minimum, they could charge me the interest.”

Over this time, Adam managed his debts well and was across his finances. He met his payments on-time and kept a well-documented schedule of his repayments.

“Every month, I knew exactly what was due when it was due. The best I could manage was to meet the minimum repayments and occasionally drop a bit more in. When another expense would come up and I would draw down on the cards again, living on credit.

“You just don’t get ahead because of the interest that builds up.

“I was very fortunate because a lovely person working for one of my creditors Bankwest said she could see that during the pandemic everybody was in strife, and they suspended payments. She asked if I heard of Way Forward and would I like to know more about how they could help?

“I thought, because I had been carrying that debt for several years, there’s no way I’m ever going to get out of it and that I might go bankrupt. That was not an ideal scenario. But they introduced me to Way Forward. I started to work with Bill and that lifted a huge weight off my shoulders.

“When I first met Bill, and he explained the process. It took a couple of months to gather all the relevant information and present it all.

Adam is at the beginning of his process with Way Forward, having made his first payment in December 2020 and making monthly repayments.

“Knowing exactly how much you’ve got each month and knowing that you’re making inroads into the debt and interest isn’t being charged, it’s a huge relief.

“Having this fixed payment, knowing that there’s a final term to the repayments and Way Forward managing things on my behalf allows me to focus a lot more on important things like getting the business back on track and getting on top of things financially.

“Having this support is very important because I know at any time, I can email or call Bill if I have a question or issue, and he’ll have an answer.

“When I first heard of Way Forward, I thought it was another debt consolidation company but when it was explained that it’s an industry body supported by the banks, I could see they were credible  as opposed to some of these other companies where they make money off people’s misfortune.

“As a service, Way Forward demonstrates a lot of empathy and support. Bill and I got on well, he came from a banking background and me from a finance background. Working with him was good he was he explained things to things at an easy pace.

“Part of the problem is if you if you try and manage it yourself, as I did for several years, you keep it under control but you don’t necessarily fix the problem.

“For anyone who’s in that situation, don’t be embarrassed. Don’t be afraid to approach Way Forward and have a conversation, because it doesn’t cost you anything, and it might just change everything.

“It can be embarrassing being in debt. We’re supposed to be intelligent and should have enough knowledge and wherewithal to manage money. I put myself in that category coming from a finance background and being reasonably competent. However, there is this negative relationship with credit and it’s just so accessible.

 

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The repayment plan Liz has from Way Forward has given her the space to ‘do life’ again

Liz ended up in financial hardship when she lost her job. Luckily, she found work again but this time but her new role paid much less. This severely impacted her ability to meet her loan repayments.  

She hopes to one day find work that pays a higher wage but, in the meantime, Way Forward has put together a plan, which is helping to repay her loans. She is clear on her priorities and the benefits of having a budget and spending with purpose.  

Fundamentally, she credits taking professional financial guidance as giving her the confidence to improve her situation, and recommends people who have experiencing that same, should reach out for assistance.  

“People think it is health and other things, but financial professional help is real. It’s the first one people should go for it to resolve the other problems. 

“Being willing to want to change your financial situation to live the life you want, rather than dealing with the stress of it all and leading into health or mental complications and unhappiness.  

“If we didn’t have the financial challenges, and had extra money saved, this pandemic wouldn’t have been about finances at all would have been about how am I going to be mentally, dealing with not meeting people or doing things as normal?  

Liz initially reach out to her bank for hardship support. They were able to quickly provide options for smaller regular repayment amounts. However, she was unable to meet those smaller repayments and needed further assistance.   

“Left, right and centre, everybody is looking for financial hardship during COVID. You feel like the banks have refined and improved their processes to try and help people better. 

Liz was referred to Way Forward by CommBank. Way Forward negotiated a payment plan where interest was reduced, repayment time frames extended, and no exit fees.  

Liz has been working with Way Forward Hardship Advocate Matthew, who helped her with her budget.   

“It was so simple. Like we had just two conversations, to just look at my budget, to send back a completed spreadsheet. And we had one more call just to finalise the entire thing. 

“After speaking to Matthew and really looking at it he clarified that has nothing to do with insolvency or bankruptcy it’s just a matter of getting on track with paying off the bills. 

“Knowing when I’m exactly going to make payments, it gave me clarity that, I’m not going to overspend because I can save money even if I’m not earning a lot.

“And any questions I had, I would speak with Matthew and he would immediately provide me the answers.  

“This just gave me hope to save and continue on with life, rather than stressing out. 

“And I get to do things that I normally do and not have to cut out the simple things in life. 

 Liz now has plans for the future.  

 I wanted to always buy a family home and I think it looks hopeful for me right now. 

 I’m really committed to is that I pay this off as quickly as possible. But at the same time, I know that I will have the chance to budget better and it’s given me a lot more confidence that I’ve got the support I need right now.” 

 

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Way Forward negotiated affordable repayments with Nira’s creditors and now she’s paying off her debts

Following a long-term relationship break down, Nira was saddled with debts that were part of the relationship but was then stuck with paying those back by herself.     

“It was really overwhelming to have to pay the debts. I was in repayment every fortnight and it was two different banks.   

I had to overwork myself. I was so stressed.  

She was referred to Way Forward who could negotiate with those two creditors on Nira’s behalf.   

It was the first time she had heard of Way Forward.  

When I started talking with Way Forward, it was Matthew who was corresponding with me. He did a terrific job.  

“What he did was, because the debts belong to two different banks, he wrote to them and then got them to agree to matching proposals based on my income and level of debt with each bank.  

I was so happy for the terrific job that Matthew has done for me.  

didn’t know that such services stayed until recently, I would be more than happy to refer to people. 

The best part was, when I tried to negotiate personally, it wasn’t making any headway but having Matthew to do it for me, he got the approval.  

then went about my personal business, and he did everything for me.  

“Now I have a plan. I know how much I’m going to be repeating every fortnight so it’s predictable.  

I’m looking at life with so much hope as what so much is spent expectancy and positivity. Thinking I have most of the things under control. 

 

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Dan – the importance of maintaining a good credit rating

“I learned my lesson the hard way”

Dan was going through a divorce and the lawyers bills kept piling up. He took out small amounts of high interest loans to pay the invoices. He tried to stay on top of things. With a high income, he thought he would be ok.

But that all came apart when his income stopped covering the loan repayments. He contacted his bank for help. That made things worse. It impacted his credit rating.

“I learned my lesson the hard way”

Dan spoke with Way Forward’s Client Services Manager Paula to develop a budget plan and repayment plan.

“I can see what goes in and what goes out. I just don’t buy things that I don’t need.

“I felt like Paula understood my situation. I felt like she was looking after me. The communication has been very good.”

Dan no longer has small loans or credit cards.

“I feel more comfortable because I have what I need. I feel like a different person, I am happier.

I don’t need as many things as I thought I did before.”

Dan used another hardship service but perceived the monthly repayments as “very unrealistic.”

“I feel so much better because I don’t have to deal with banks or small providers. I keep receiving emails and offers but I feel like I don’t want to take that because I have learned my lesson.”

If you’d like to know more about how Way Forward can help you: 

Enquire here or call us on 1300 451 343

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